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Interesting website I found

#1 Post by tdawg7669 »

http://www.arabmedmag.com/issue-31-05-2 ... main02.htm
Case example 2

A 22-year-old female presented with the chief complaint of a lack of contact between the anterior teeth and a poor esthetic appearance of her smile (Figure 7A–C ). The patient demonstrated a severe Class II malocclusion with a 1.9-mm open bite and posterior crossbite tendency. Cephalometric analysis revealed an obtuse mandibular plane angle and excessive vertical development of the maxilla (Table 2 ).

Maxillary expansion was accomplished using a spring jet appliance.17 Initial leveling and alignment was achieved with a preadjusted appliance and a mandibular lingual arch. After four months, RMI modules were placed bilaterally (Figure 8A ).

Molar intrusion and concurrent counterclockwise rotation of the mandible was achieved in about five months (Figure 8B ). No use of vertical elastics was applied to this case at any time of treatment, and only a limited use of Class II intermaxillary elastics was used for finishing the occlusion. Treatment was completed in a total of 19 months (Figure 9A–C ). The occlusion and skeletal results have remained stable 21 months after the removal of the appliance for intrusion (eight months after the end of treatment) (note that the T3 cephalometric radiograph was taken eight months after the end of treatment) (Figure 10A–D ).

Honestly that case sounds nearly identical to mine. I feel like if there was an image to go along with this description it would be like looking in a mirror. I am wondering if this is what my orthodontist meant when he said my problems might be able to be corrected without surgery. Does anybody think this sounds plausible and legit? I go in to get braced a week from tomorrow. I plan on talking it over with the orthodontist one more time. I was planning on campaigning for maxillary impaction, but now I am not so sure. I am so confused. This whole situation has caused me so much emotional distress and has essentially consumed my life.

The main things that bother me are lip incompetence, a bit of a gummy smile, slightly narrow smile, slightly recessed chin, appearance of a long narrow face, TMJ pain, headaches, obstructed nose breathing especially when sleeping.

Does this treatment plan sound viable?

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#2 Post by tdawg7669 »

I just noticed the pictures at the bottom and they are amazing in the case of the 22 year old considering there was no surgery involved.

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#3 Post by Christina28 »

I have read about this type of treatments. I'm not really clear what they mean by "intrusion". Can anyone clarify?

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#4 Post by tdawg7669 »

Neither do I, but I do know I have a posterior crossbite, anterior openbite and overbite like that girl had, and it seems like my problems are about of the same severity as hers. If I get a result like that I would be happy. Although the photos arent of the best quality.


Just wondering if anybody here went through something similar? I think my ortho said i might have to have surgery but he is 90% confident he can fix everything with this method. I have to say this has made me feel a lot better because before this I havent seen any photos of non surgical adult correction of these bite problems that has looked good.

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#5 Post by Christina28 »

I wonder if this is same or similar method to TADs - Temporary Anchorage Device?

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#6 Post by Clo »

Hi,

a quick reply of mine :

http://www.angle.org/doi/full/10.1043/0 ... istoryKey=

is the same article, but pictures are bigger if you click on them.

My personal experiences are here :

http://archwired.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.p ... sc&start=0

On page 2, you can see I had those RMI springs too. They are used to try to intrude the molars. If you have an open bite in the front (anterior open bite), then when you bite down, the molars come together, but not the front teeth. Now, when the lower molars are pulled downwards, and/or the upper molars upwards, this means for both more into the bone = intruding, then an open bite can be corrected that way. Not for me though. It didn't work. Not sure though if mechanics failed, or competence of the ortho failed.

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#7 Post by tdawg7669 »

hey, thanks for your reply. Well I dont really feel inspired with confidence after reading your story. I go in tomorrow to get braced. I shall discuss this with my ortho then to see what exactly he intends to do because I am freaking out now.

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Open Bite

#8 Post by Christina28 »

Thanks for sharing your story. Sorry you have had to go through so much. What I have found with personal experience and reading the posts of many others, that some orthos just go to extreme measures to avoid surgery at times. Everyone has different issues. If your case is strictly dental then, these measures often work, but if they are truly skeletal, then they often fail.

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#9 Post by cvn »

I basically had something like this but instead of intruding the teeth, they cut down all my teeth to try to get my bite to meet, and now I have 20 crowns. It didn't work, which sucks because now I have my teeth bonded back up to their original height for the current surgery, and I'm having all 20 crowns replaced in a year. This will be expensive (the dentist told me $35k sigh) and really uncomfortable. If anyone ever offers you this option, I would strongly suggest you reflect seriously on your options. I guess at least the intrusion is reversible.

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#10 Post by tdawg7669 »

well this is indeed what my orthodontist intends to do. The manner in which he will is still a mystery to me, but I am happy. I realized that I really dont have a skeletal overjet(in fact my molar relationship seems to be class 1 on one side and class 3 on the other), my lower jaw looks recessed because of the backwards position it is in due to the angle the teeth are biting down at in the back, which also causes the openbite similar to what that girl has. In addition I think it might also be causing my mild lip incompetence. If we fix that via intrusion, it should allow my lower jaw to autorotate up, fixing sll those issues, and then its simply a matter of refining my bite. I am pretty stoked, the functional and cosmetic improvements likely without surgery(although he has reserved the right to go that route if he needs to) have me excited. I have faith in my ortho to do this right.

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