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Molar and pre-molar banding

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 3:19 am
by boxerboots
Hello everyone
As a newbie UK based adult, I'm wondering if it's still possible to have my molars and premolars banded instead of bracketed. I have some older fillings, and clench my teeth at night, so was hoping for a bit more durability and security once the braces are on.
I should be starting ortho soon soon (records done), so wanted to make the right decision. Any thoughts or ideas gratefully recieved!
Thank you

Re: Molar and pre-molar banding

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:54 am
by Navygrrl
I suppose you could bring it up with your orthodontist. I have two premolars banded due to fillings, but I didn't ask. My orthodontist explained why and we went ahead. Spacers are horrible, though, fyi.

Re: Molar and pre-molar banding

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:51 am
by cbraces678
I think you could ask for it if you wanted to, and see if they would do it if they don’t usually. My molars are bracketed, and I clench really badly at night. I haven’t had any issues with them coming off over the last 16 months. However, I don’t have any fillings that the brackets touch.

Re: Molar and pre-molar banding

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:15 pm
by Speck
One would assume that bands are absolutely reliable, right? So far I've had one come loose and another break. Oddly enough, none of the glued-on brackets have failed. YMMV.

Wishing you a smooth orthodontic treatment!

Re: Molar and pre-molar banding

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:46 pm
by boxerboots
Gosh! Thank you all for your replies, what a great support, and really helpful comments.

I do wonder, because of the chair time involved in separating and fitting bands, whether a lot of orthodontists are reluctant to band adjacent teeth. And maybe modern brackets adhere much better anyway in most circumstances.

I have experienced separators before, and limited banding (just on my 7’s) ... you’re right Navygrrl, not so pleasant, but I found I got used to them after a week or so if I tried not to focus on my teeth too much!!

Speck, was there any reason why your bands failed, that you know of? From what I understand, that bands must seat and fit really well to be effective. Again more time to organise and size, than is practical for some.

Interesting that you’re a clencher, cbraces678, and no breakage with your brackets. Are you wearing metal braces or ceramics? Does this make any difference?
Do you use a night guard wit braces?

Thanks again, I’ll let you know how my next appointment goes!

Re: Molar and pre-molar banding

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2019 11:53 am
by cbraces678
boxerboots wrote:
Wed Aug 14, 2019 11:46 pm
Gosh! Thank you all for your replies, what a great support, and really helpful comments.

I do wonder, because of the chair time involved in separating and fitting bands, whether a lot of orthodontists are reluctant to band adjacent teeth. And maybe modern brackets adhere much better anyway in most circumstances.

I have experienced separators before, and limited banding (just on my 7’s) ... you’re right Navygrrl, not so pleasant, but I found I got used to them after a week or so if I tried not to focus on my teeth too much!!

Speck, was there any reason why your bands failed, that you know of? From what I understand, that bands must seat and fit really well to be effective. Again more time to organise and size, than is practical for some.

Interesting that you’re a clencher, cbraces678, and no breakage with your brackets. Are you wearing metal braces or ceramics? Does this make any difference?
Do you use a night guard wit braces?

Thanks again, I’ll let you know how my next appointment goes!
I have metal braces! I am not sure if it makes a difference having metal or ceramic with clenching. Metal has held up very well for me. I do not wear a night guard. My ortho suggested that I just weather through the clenching during treatment because a guard will slow tooth movement and affect jaw position. Once I complete my treatment I will be getting a guard for sure. So far I find that the clenching isn't as bad as it was before braces. I used to have horrible head aches when I woke up, but I haven't had a head ache in months. I can tell that I still do it, but I think it has improved with the braces. I hope it gets better for you too!

Re: Molar and pre-molar banding

Posted: Sat Aug 17, 2019 3:22 am
by boxerboots
Oh yes! ... the morning headaches! Euch. I think it depends on the bite and whether the teeth clash as a guide to knowing whether brackets or bands.
Interesting to hear that your headaches have got better since you’ve started treatment. Do you feel your bite has improved too, or too early to say?