Getting braces for the 2nd time because of protrusion

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badbraces
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Re: Getting braces for the 2nd time because of protrusion

#16 Post by badbraces » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:04 am

I guess so, I'm not really sure how they will fit :( I wanted extractions so I can see the teeth move, wanted to ask anyone here who have tried not getting extractions with extreme protrusion like mine

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Re: Getting braces for the 2nd time because of protrusion

#17 Post by Lovespain5 » Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:32 pm

badbraces wrote:I guess so, I'm not really sure how they will fit :( I wanted extractions so I can see the teeth move, wanted to ask anyone here who have tried not getting extractions with extreme protrusion like mine
Do you have your wisdom teeth or had they already been extracted?
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Re: Getting braces for the 2nd time because of protrusion

#18 Post by badbraces » Wed Jul 27, 2016 10:13 pm

5 wisdom teeth surgically extracted but I have no more space in my mouth because my dentist says my jaw is small and my teeth are regular sized. I really think my bicuspids need to be extracted. I know it's only been 4 days since my braces but I was hoping for a faster pace so I can close my mouth :cry:

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Re: Getting braces for the 2nd time because of protrusion

#19 Post by Catpotat » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:43 am

[quote="badbraces"]finally scheduled my braces for monday!

question, is the extraction of bicuspids after getting braces? I thought they were going to be extracted before installing the braces.[/quote]

How are the braces going Badbraces? :) Hope you're not in too much pain.
I'm getting extractions on Monday (already had braces on for a few weeks now) and the reason my ortho chose to extract after is that the gaps can begin closing immediately. They'll take the arch wire off, you go get extractions by the dentist and go back to the ortho asap to replace the wires.

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Re: Getting braces for the 2nd time because of protrusion

#20 Post by Catpotat » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:54 am

[quote="badbraces"]thanks lovespain!

I've made a gif on the possible before and after of my protrusion, I measured the 2x 1st bicuspid top to be removed and the 2x 2nd lower bicuspid. Hopefully this will be the result! and I can finally close my mouth properly
http://imgur.com/a/yNCKs[/quote]

Nice gif Badbraces, I think your back teeth will also move forward as well though? So the distance of movement in your gif will be approximately halved. I also have protrusion and asked to have my front teeth moved back as much as possible, but the ortho said the only way to achieve this is to insert screws into the bone and use elastics to pull the teeth back *_*

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Re: Getting braces for the 2nd time because of protrusion

#21 Post by Lovespain5 » Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:14 am

badbraces wrote:5 wisdom teeth surgically extracted but I have no more space in my mouth because my dentist says my jaw is small and my teeth are regular sized. I really think my bicuspids need to be extracted. I know it's only been 4 days since my braces but I was hoping for a faster pace so I can close my mouth :cry:
5 wisdom teeth? :)
So you initially had 33 teeth? So one extra-tooth? :)
Maybe as all your wisdom teeth had been extracted the ortho has found place enough to retract your jaws without extractions.
Because lacking 8 teeth is too much in my opinion, and maybe this of your orthodontist... I don't defend automatically extractions.
I personnally lack my 4 first bicuspids but I have all my wisdom teeth.
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Re: Getting braces for the 2nd time because of protrusion

#22 Post by Lovespain5 » Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:24 am

Meowmei wrote:
badbraces wrote:thanks lovespain!

I've made a gif on the possible before and after of my protrusion, I measured the 2x 1st bicuspid top to be removed and the 2x 2nd lower bicuspid. Hopefully this will be the result! and I can finally close my mouth properly
http://imgur.com/a/yNCKs
Nice gif Badbraces, I think your back teeth will also move forward as well though? So the distance of movement in your gif will be approximately halved. I also have protrusion and asked to have my front teeth moved back as much as possible, but the ortho said the only way to achieve this is to insert screws into the bone and use elastics to pull the teeth back *_*
My back teeth had been moved slightly forward when the ortho gave my the class III elastics to move back the lower jaw (it's normal to move both jaws back in a case of bimax protrusion like mine) but my upper front teeth had been moved back much without any anchorage, only thanks to the class II elastics (the more I used) and the powerchains. The ortho had installed a special arch with loops too to reinforce the moving back of my arches. The retraction of my upper arch had been of more than 7 millimeters. And after the closing of the gaps the lower jaw is put slightly forward in the aim to create a contact between the upper and the lower teeth. So my profile had improved a lot without surgery or bone screws.
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Re: Getting braces for the 2nd time because of protrusion

#23 Post by badbraces » Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:56 am

I have 8 excess teeth! My previous dentist from 10 years ago said she had never seen someone with so much extra teeth! My current dentist says I have unusual teeth as well because I still have 1 extra wisdom tooth but it's small but it's shaped like a full wisdom tooth. :lol:
Meowmei wrote:How are the braces going Badbraces? :) Hope you're not in too much pain.
I'm getting extractions on Monday (already had braces on for a few weeks now) and the reason my ortho chose to extract after is that the gaps can begin closing immediately. They'll take the arch wire off, you go get extractions by the dentist and go back to the ortho asap to replace the wires.
I doing well thanks! My only problem is that I cannot eat my food properly :( I find that swallowing my food whole is the best option to remove the pain from chewing, but I'm worried I might get stomach pain
Meowmei wrote:back teeth will also move forward as well though? So the distance of movement in your gif will be approximately halved. I also have protrusion and asked to have my front teeth moved back as much as possible, but the ortho said the only way to achieve this is to insert screws into the bone and use elastics to pull the teeth back *_*

I'm hoping it wouldn't be halved as I really want the protrusion gone, hoping that my molars stay where they are and the only thing that's moving are my front teeth. oh no I don't want screws in my mouth, the dentist didn't mention about this :(

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Re: Getting braces for the 2nd time because of protrusion

#24 Post by Catpotat » Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:16 am

Meowmei wrote:How are the braces going Badbraces? :) Hope you're not in too much pain.
I'm getting extractions on Monday (already had braces on for a few weeks now) and the reason my ortho chose to extract after is that the gaps can begin closing immediately. They'll take the arch wire off, you go get extractions by the dentist and go back to the ortho asap to replace the wires.
I doing well thanks! My only problem is that I cannot eat my food properly :( I find that swallowing my food whole is the best option to remove the pain from chewing, but I'm worried I might get stomach pain
Meowmei wrote:back teeth will also move forward as well though? So the distance of movement in your gif will be approximately halved. I also have protrusion and asked to have my front teeth moved back as much as possible, but the ortho said the only way to achieve this is to insert screws into the bone and use elastics to pull the teeth back *_*

I'm hoping it wouldn't be halved as I really want the protrusion gone, hoping that my molars stay where they are and the only thing that's moving are my front teeth. oh no I don't want screws in my mouth, the dentist didn't mention about this :([/quote]

Don't worry you probably won't need screws! :lol: But it is an option if you want maximum retraction. I had terribly painful bowel movements from not being able to chew my food properly, please try to eat slowly and regularly so you don't get hungry and try to devour a big meal - an arduous task with braces on! :P
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Re: Getting braces for the 2nd time because of protrusion

#25 Post by badbraces » Sat Jul 30, 2016 1:01 am

oh I see, I would want a maximum retraction! But my dentist didn't mention anything about screws (sounds very painful)

I'm doing a lot better today chewing has been a lot more comfortable (day 6) but there's still pain.

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Re: Getting braces for the 2nd time because of protrusion

#26 Post by badbraces » Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:10 am

Aleardy 1+ month with braces, just changed elastics and the wire last 25th. My dentist still insisted not having my premolars removed! :( She says to wait for 3-4 months to see movement of teeth coming in.

I really don't want to wait that long! I've been dreaming of having a non-protruding mouth but it seems to long to wait :cry:

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Re: Getting braces for the 2nd time because of protrusion

#27 Post by Lovespain5 » Wed Sep 07, 2016 5:36 am

Ok. Wait and see...
But for what reason does your orthodontist reject bicuspid extractions?
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Re: Getting braces for the 2nd time because of protrusion

#28 Post by Scottmc87 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 6:09 am

[quote="badbraces"]Aleardy 1+ month with braces, just changed elastics and the wire last 25th. My dentist still insisted not having my premolars removed! :( She says to wait for 3-4 months to see movement of teeth coming in.

I really don't want to wait that long! I've been dreaming of having a non-protruding mouth but it seems to long to wait :cry:[/quote]

4 months isn't that bad! I had the same issue and my ortho said no to extractions. It's better to keep them if you can!

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Re: Getting braces for the 2nd time because of protrusion

#29 Post by Lovespain5 » Thu Sep 22, 2016 2:40 pm

Scottmc87 wrote:
badbraces wrote:Aleardy 1+ month with braces, just changed elastics and the wire last 25th. My dentist still insisted not having my premolars removed! :( She says to wait for 3-4 months to see movement of teeth coming in.

I really don't want to wait that long! I've been dreaming of having a non-protruding mouth but it seems to long to wait :cry:
4 months isn't that bad! I had the same issue and my ortho said no to extractions. It's better to keep them if you can!

You have a bimaxillary protrusion too?
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Re: Getting braces for the 2nd time because of protrusion

#30 Post by badbraces » Tue Oct 04, 2016 11:13 pm

dentist says it would be a waste to have them removed if it does move. But nothing seems to be moving! Finally convinced my dentist to start removing my teeth, had 2 removed yesterday. I feel very miserable eating but I'm happy :)

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