Anyone here Dip Snuff

[packersfan]

I mentioned this on another post, but I did something stupid in High School when hanging with the country boys and tried snuff and liked it. I want to stop, but it will take time, and I am looking at braces and invisalign soon. I would consider lingual. While I start treatment, which would be best to dip in and what style of it for braces or invisalign. Please don't judge, I need my teeth straightened sooner than later and hopefully by the end stop dipping. I don't care about staining.

Thanks

Julia

[sirwired]

Given that invisilign must be in for so much of the day to work properly, and your teeth brushed after every single meal, I don't think that'll be an option, as I imagine you'd need to remove the aligners, do your thing, and brush before putting the aligner back in... too much out-of-mouth time.

And I know you say you "don't care about staining", any staining you currently have would certainly be much worse with conventional braces. (and ceramics would definitely not be an option.)

That leaves lingual braces, as you mentioned. I don't see any inherent reason why they wouldn't work (as long as any stringy tobacco bits stay away from your archwire; don't see why that wouldn't be possible), but certainly dip does no favors for your gums so your ortho is going to have to evaluate your gum tissue before he/she will agree to start treatment.

This may be an excellent time to switch over to another form of nicotine delivery such as e-cigs or the patch; it will open up a lot more options, braces-wise. Linguals are certainly no fun, with problems with tongue irritation and speech that have to be overcome, not to mention the fact that no ortho does a huge number of them.

[Nozzelnut]

Guessing something like bandits would work the easiest; I'm going to be in the same boat in a couple weeks.

I might try the patch, ecig, or lozenges and get off tobacco completely.

[packersfan]

My dentist knows I dip, being a lady I am embarrassed I dip and would rather an orthodontist not know. My dentist said my gums are fine. If I wore each Invisalign tray 3
Weeks instead of two would that help?

[sirwired]

FWIW, the Invisilgn website says they must be worn 20-22 hours a day to work properly.

And I don't think you'll be able to hide your habit from your ortho; I'm pretty sure dip leaves a specific type of staining and pretty obvious evidence on your gums, even if they are healthy.

[packersfan]

I always thought it was the amount of total time one wore the aligners, so 22 hours X 14 days, or 17 hours X 21 days.

Anyone in treatment or completed treatment use dip?

[sirwired]

Relapse occurs at a MUCH faster rate than progress. Not sure how universal this is but I saw a 3:1 ratio quoted before.