Teeth are not straight after braces

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#1 Post by **eclipse0720** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:40 pm

Just recently got my braces off , however, my lower right central is slightly not upright (slanted) and the tooth beside it, lower right lateral is not straight either and it is slightly pushed backward . They look as if they are pushing against each other. This is how they look like

Can someone please explain why would this happen ? Why didnt braces put them in proper position?

I have told my orthodontist that the teeth are not straight before but he just said they could be "trimmed" later. What does it mean? I dont really want to do contour or reshaping.

Will be getting my retainer in few days and he still didnt do anything about the teeth. Is it possible to move them using retainer?

Right now this problem is driving me crazy. I just want to have a beautiful smile.

I really would like some input if any one has had the same experience or if there are dentists/orthodontists on this site. Thanks a lot.

#2 Post by **eclipse0720** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 5:56 pm

also which is the best way to fix the teeth for me now? thanks..

#3 Post by **eclipse0720** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:04 pm

here's a picture

#4 Post by **classII** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:22 pm

Nature

I'm having that right now.

The object is to get a round arch.

The bottom teeth are more important than the top teeth. They dictate where the top teeth "fall" naturally.

That is correct the bottom row of teeth into a correct arch, then the top teeth to layer correctly over them.

"The" (or at least mine does) ortho never looks at the teeth face on , from the front. They tinker upside with the mirror under the teeth both open and closed.

Provided the teeth/arch make a correct 'semi circle'(arch) how they (the teeth themsevles) achieve that is secondary.

Difficult to explain, but looking face on, while the arch is correct, some teeth are skew on the bottom and therefore, some on top follow them naturally.

Actually maybe it's odd shaped/thickness teeth.

How to explain

If you look at the bottom row of teeth from above they look like a perfect semi-circle(arch).If you look at them face on, some are leaning left or right.

I'll try and make a pic. with it, time allowing, in the interim perhaps a doc here can explain it better.

#5 Post by **classII** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:31 pm

oops

I see you posted exactly what I was trying to say.

Provided the "tips" or the tops of the teeth touch and create the arch (as from looking above/down), how they are orientated when looking face on, is not part of the equation. In mild cases,that is where IPR comes in, where they shave each tooth shape to make them straight, and thus make them contact side ways 100% . That's drastic.

In this case, (say mine yours), if a monumental esthetic concern, while retaining the correct bite ( primary concern), would be to veneenr or or "fake the front view of them all.

Personally I wouldn't do that.I'm all for a perfect bite with skew teeth vs imperfect bite and perfect LOOKING teeth.

A new thing I recently learnt.

#6 Post by **eclipse0720** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:34 pm

That's what I thought too! My ortho never looks at the teeth from the front too. Sadly.

Before the orthodontics treatment the teeth are rather straight so I'm sure that its not because of the odd shapes or thickness.

I just hate it that everytime I told him this problem he never really do anything about them.

#7 Post by **eclipse0720** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:45 pm

do you mind to post a picture of yours?

just looked into the mirror and yep, looking from the upper the arch is just perfect.

I dont know, the way they arranged themselves right now is freaking me out.

#8 Post by **UGHBRACES** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 6:48 pm

My ortho is doing whats called interproximal reduction in between all lower front teeth to create the space and shape for them to come together perfectly. He has done it once so far and i literally couldn't see any difference in terms of what was shaved off, the teeth still looked the same size but it did make a big difference in the straightening of the teeth. That would be to late for you now that the braces are off though.

#9 Post by **eclipse0720** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:08 pm

UGHBRACES wrote:My ortho is doing whats called interproximal reduction in between all lower front teeth to create the space and shape for them to come together perfectly. He has done it once so far and i literally couldn't see any difference in terms of what was shaved off, the teeth still looked the same size but it did make a big difference in the straightening of the teeth. That would be to late for you now that the braces are off though.

if only i knew about interproximal reduction before i started my treatment

just called my ortho and I'll be seeing him tomorrow. i really hope all the doubts that im having right now would be sorted out perfectly.

will definitely keep you guys posted

#10 Post by **classII** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:09 pm

eclipse0720 wrote:do you mind to post a picture of yours?

just looked into the mirror and yep, looking from the upper the arch is just perfect.

I dont know, the way they arranged themselves right now is freaking me out.

lol

if i did, you say, i'd need braces.

I'm over 2 years in where they look now like normal teeth that require braces.

But I understand it and accept it.

With your picture, to understand it, slice down that irregular tooth in a picture programe, to make it a straight(ly) shaped tooth and then move / positon it to be flush/against the next tooth.

You'll see how your entire arch/bite would change.

The object is to correct the bite, first and foremost. With luck your original teeth will look like hollywood thereafter. some do some don't. It's the shape of the teeth outside their orientation that allows for this.

I think the simplest explaintion would be when I was green, early on , and parroted about "the mid-lines" (as being a concern), he said 'with luck' they' match up. That's cosmetic. His concern/objective is to correct the bite. Doesn't matter how it looks thereafter.

Biggest thing I've learnt.

Orthodontics isn't about masking what you have (your teeth) tomake them pretty and nice. It's correcting what is available to move it their correct place. Regardless whether you odd shaped, sized, thick, chipped etc. teeth.

That's where cosmestics come in.

#11 Post by **eclipse0720** » Thu Apr 01, 2010 7:21 pm

i dont know how to put them in words but thank you so much because what you've said really do ease my heart. I was worried sick yesterday (still do, anyhow) but yeah guess I get it now, the object is to correct the bite. Getting the perfect looking teeth is a bonus.

I'll try to talk with my ortho tomorrow. Am hoping for the best . =)

#12 Post by **eclipse0720** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:42 am

Saw my ortho today . Told him about that 2 teeth are not straight and seem to be pushing against each other . He tried to trim them (with a driller i believe) but it didnt work out well.
I'm not happy with the outcome , asked if there's anything could do to correct them. Then he said to move them to the proper positions he will either alter the retainer or use brackets (i think it means using braces..?? )

I feel much relieved right now . Guess I'll just have to wait for my retainer and the next appointment to see what is the best for my teeth.

#13 Post by **Snowglobe32** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 1:03 am

Are you getting a bonded retainer?

#14 Post by **eclipse0720** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 2:10 am

nope snowglobe , im getting a Hawley retainer. what difference will it make ?

#15 Post by **Snowglobe32** » Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:01 pm

I don't know what real difference it will make but from what I have heard, the bonded retainers keep your teeth straight because they are bonded so the teeth don't move. I have also heard you can never have them removed.I could be wrong but maybe one of the professionals can help us.