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AHermon
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Joined: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:21 am
Location: London

Need help in London!

#1 Post by AHermon »

Hi everyone!
I'm new here, Nice to 'meet' you all :D
I am desperate to use braces and fix my teeth. I used to wear them as a child but when I became rebel adolescent i just gave up and didn't wear them anymore. My paretns (obviously) decided to stop paying for something that was not being used!
Fast forward a few years and i am now a frustrated adult, desperate to have a nice and beautiful smile! I do not want to do any cosmetic dentistry though, i want to keep my own!
I have been living in London for 5 years and i do not know anything about orthodontists here. I mean i do not know anyone who has had braces fitted (NHS doesn't help adults here- i have been told I have no chance!)I would really appreciate some of your personal experiences and recommendations as i would really like to find a professional to help me out but that someone already trusts...
Really looking forward to your reply/comments

Kind Regards
Ana

babyduck
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#2 Post by babyduck »

Do you have a regular dentist? I would start there and see who he or she recommends. Also, I'm 100% unfamiliar with the UK system, however I have seen where adults here on this site have received help NHS, so I would delve a little deeper into that. Your dentist should be able to clear that up. If you do have to pay out of pocket, perhaps you could work something out with the ortho by way of a payment plan (Don't know if that's an option) or just get cost estimates and start saving up. Here in the US, consults are generally free...I don't know if that's the case where you are, though. Sorry...I'm sure a fellow UK poster will appear at some point and be of more help.

By the way, I do want to say that I'm completely in agreeance with your decision to fix your own teeth instead of going the cosmetic dentistry route. Thankfully, I have a very great dentist who discouraged me from getting veneers because I have healthy teeth that would have to be needlessly grinded down in order to do them. Plus, veneers aren't permanent and generally have to be replaced every ten years according to the research that I did. That made me nervous because you can't ever know where you'll be financially ten years down the road and what happens when your veneer weakens and you don't have the money to replace it? So anyway....good decision haha.

Stacy
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Sahara
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#3 Post by Sahara »

My dentist also told me that I couldn't get my braces on the NHS - although there are posts here that say otherwise, as babyduck says...

He did offer to refer me to an orthodontist, but he is quite a long way from where I live (I stayed with him after I moved) and his ortho would have been even more inconvenient for me to get to.

As an adult, you can apparently just refer yourself anyway. A consultation costs £50-£125. It was important for me to get a price for ceramic, lingual and invisalign braces so I could make an informed choice. So I picked one recommendation from this message board: an orthodontist a short distance from my workplace. Then I decided I should have a second opinion, so I made an appointment with the private dental practice across the road from my workplace! Both offered payment in instalments.

In the end, I decided to go with the second one, as I got much better vibes from him. I'm very happy with him so far, although I've only seen him twice and 'phoned him once (I left a message on his mobile and he called me back within 5 minutes - impressive!).

Hope this helps!
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Lisa65
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#4 Post by Lisa65 »

Hi there

A good place to start might be the British Orthodontic Society's site here http://www.bos.org.uk/aboutorthodontics ... hodontist/

You can do a postcode search for orthos in your area. As a private patient you can just self-refer, or if you have a general dentist, you could ask him to recommend somebody for you. I would recommend my ortho, but I'm about 2 hours from London by train.

If you're hoping for NHS treatment, you'd have to ask your dentist to refer you. You can't self-refer. NHS orthodontics is done on the Index of Treatment Need - look here http://www.bexleyortho.co.uk/IOTN.htm. So unless your case is at least moderately severe, you won't qualify. Waiting lists can be pretty long too. You might get to see a consultant fairly quickly, but once you're put on the list for treatment, it can be a couple of years before it starts.

AHermon
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Location: London

Need help in London

#5 Post by AHermon »

Thank you Stacey, Sahara and Lisa for your suggestions!
I do not mind going private. It's not that I have plenty of money it's just that this is an absolute priority for me now. I do not have a dentist here, as I go back 'home' once or twice a year i always go to my dentist there. She's excellent, I trust her and i find it very hard to change dentists- i'm kinda terrified of pain!! and - touch wood- i have never had an emergency here.
Because i do not have a dentist here, i simply do not know where to begin. I do not know any adult here who has braces so no one can really recommend a professional they trust.
I'll definitely take a look at the links Lisa sent me but I would really appreciate if you could give me some names and where their practices are, I would feel a lot safer knowing that someone trusts that professional and is getting or has already got good results from the treatment.
I promise i'll read your message and delete it afterwards if you'd like some privacy, or even better i can send you my e-mail address.
Thank you so much for all your help, i really appreciate it!
Kind Regards
Ana

AHermon
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Need help in London

#6 Post by AHermon »

Oh, and Stacey, about not going the cosmetic dentistry route- My grandmas always told me that the best thing i could do for myself would be to keep my own teeth (in good order) for as long as I could. They are very old, well one was, she's no longer here - Bless them- and when they started having dental problems, in those days, the option was to take them all out and replace with dentures. Many many years down the line, the one who is still alive (late nineties! Bless her again) tells me she misses being able to chew better, as with the age the dentures have kind of worn her gums out and things are not so easy anymore. She does eat well but she misses a nice steak! :lol:
Who knows if 30 years down the line i'll have financial conditions to replace veneers??

markybwoy
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Joined: Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:34 am
Location: London

Try the GDC as well

#7 Post by markybwoy »

Hi Ana

The British Orthodontic Society is a good place to research. These orthos are members of the professional body - so they get all the research journals and so on. These orthos have invested a few hundred £ a year to receive the latest information on their specialism - got to be a good sign.

Also the General Dental Council maintains a list of specialists as well as regular dentists. The GDC web site also tells you if there has been an unresolved complaint of fitness to practice by a patient
http://www.gdc-uk.org/Search+our+registers/Home.htm

A personal recommendation is the best kind so ask around. I've only had my braces for 5 weeks and already two people have asked me for a recommendation as they are thinking of getting braced. Most patients or ex-patients like to talk about their experiences if asked!

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