Hey Eb--As always it's ultimately your decision. Nothing significant is happening tomorrow,right. Just going over things, as I remember. And you wanted to show him your great pics!! You can do this!! You can....it's always, always, always the waiting that is our enemy. Once you get there, I bet you will be glad you did!

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True that. Ebony Q Its ultimately your decision to get them but I can see that you really want to get this done. So Go for it jsut say a little prayer before you go in or something or just bring in those pictures and show him and keep looking at the fun you had and think wow! I can make this a fun journey for me. Dont forgot the orthodontist is a little different than a general (scary) Dentist. I've always been frightened of General Denstists more than orthodontists. So just keep looking at those pictures of you having fun and telling yourself till tomorrow I can do it! Please keep us posted.

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Hey BSS--That is soooo true about the dentist being way scarier than the ortho---waaayyyy scarier. It's funny because I talk a lot when I'm at the ortho, and I was thinking--hmmm,I know they repositioned a bracket, but I don't remember anything about it!!---I was chatting, chatting, chatting....(---probably makes it easy for him to get his hands in my mouth!!! )

The dentist feels invasive to me---the ortho feels like an auto repairman whose metal happens to be in my mouth...I don't like the smells of a dentist office, or the looks of all those needle things, and I hate it when the dentist is looking in my mouth going "hmmmm....hmmmm....hmmmm"-- HMMMM WHAT?!!!

Well EbonyQ--I am with you in my mind--yes, I really will be thinking of your Thursday evening appt--I think you're about 9hrs ahead of me....treat yourself to something indulgent afterward!!!! Sorta like all of us in the USA who will be eating turkey,stuffing,pie (we got eggnog cream pie---yummy!!)--for our Thanksgiving thursday...And guess what I'm thankful for!!!????
Need I even say it!!???

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Klobird yes indeedy I know and trust my dental place. They're the best in the country people from all over fly in just to get a cleaning. Even the makers of the tootsie rolls whom are in their 90s came from Chicago to get a cleaning. We've had folks coming in from Europe and India and Asia. But that's besides the point I had one of the dentists there he was kinda really scary no offense to him because I have a dental fear and he was scaring me He is really good at what he does I mean he went to Harvard. But its jsut really scary being there.

In plus though, Going to the orthodontist is much like that and in plus the ortho always makes it a pleasurable visit. I agree Ebony once you say yes to it you can reward yourself for something good.

BTW, Klobird i would LOVE to go to your house for Thanksgiving

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Hiya Ebony. I've been keeping up with your story for a while now and just saw you had a tough time today. I understand your fear. I had a horrible fear of driving for the last ten years. Like get the shakes the whole day before I knew I would have to drive myself somewhere kind of fear. I didn't get my liscense till I was 24, and that was only cause my husband was deploying and we had just moved to a new base. I know what it's like to be afraid of something that other people just do. Give yourself time. Today wasn't a set back...it was just a bump on the road. It might take a while, but soon without you even noticing it happening you'll be ready. I still get nervous before I have to drive out to town, and it's a tiny town, but I go out come back and think "phew, glad that's over."
I hope you start to feel better.

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2-18-10 baby canine pulled
3-15-10 got braces
12-22-11 Moving-SO EXCITED!!
1-2-12 Meet new Ortho
1-5-12 Begin finishing treatment
3-5-12 Canine Implants...dun dun dunnnnn
4-9-12 Deband!
I had braces for Two Years and TwentyFive Days

Yeah I hear you on that driving fear its not so much me driving its me being in a car I sit in the middle back seat and put all three seatbelts on and I lock both doors before I can even allow the person to drive out of the driveway even an inch. And the though of riding a city bus, (im not scared of the sebway or trains) but to get me on that bus is hell seriously, I would much rather walk even if it takes 45 minutes in the winter cold weather. I agree it definatly wasn't a set back, I think you just need some time you know?

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Thank you guys! I felt so stupid and like a failure yesterday…

I’ll post the story I told klodbird:
They were a bit late so I had to wait 20 mins but that was ok for me, however the result was a full office with the other ortho working with a kind and the assistants running around. It took me by surprise because it has always been calm when I was there. The assistant took me into the room that is a bit aside from the two other chairs and they had prepared the chair for bracing, all I could think was “What is happening now?! Why are these things there?!”.

My ortho was kind and gentle as always, he started to explain the first things he would try to do with my teeth and some of what was wrong with my teeth. One of the assistants came into the room and started to do some paperwork and do things so the chair was ready to be used. I was too afraid to ask if that was for me.
Don’t think he saw how afraid and uncomfortable I was, since I have been bullied almost through my whole childhood at school I’m kind an expert at hiding my fear, it’s an instinct I have when I’m scared and not feel comfortable people I’m with the people I'm with...

My ortho started to explain things but I could not get what he said because I had my focus on his dental assistant, was that chair for me? What is happening here?!
Since I’m very shy I don’t like to speak of my teeth or ask questions I think are stupid while other people than the dentist is there, I just get a block when other people are there. So all I wanted was to run, to get out… Could not manage to ask the questions I had or show him the picture I wanted to show him . I just stood there and wanted to run.

Hearing the other ortho working on a kid right outside, seeing the dental assistant preparing the chair and all the scary things ready for use was just too much. Wanted to cry and I think my ortho saw this one time because I could see him watching me out of the corner of my eye. I wish I had a regular chair to sit on and not needed to stand.

When he asked if I wanted to do this, to put the brackets on and then the wire a week later I said yes out of fear (when I get scared I tend to agree to everything because I don’t dare to anything else), I thought it would be rude to say no if they have done the chair ready for me. Did not know what else to say

Luckily the chair was not for me because I got an appointment January 11th, which was a relief because it meant that I could enjoy Christmas without braces. I was too scared to say no so had it been my chair then I would have been a mess now...

When I left his office I started to cry… I wanted to talk the ortho about the B-day, what would happen (are we going to take pictures too? Put some or all of the brackets on? How long time? Both or just the upper jaw? etc), is his assistant going to do some work on my teeth, how much are we going to do that day? And I had some questions to him about my teeth and the treatment plan… I could not ask him anything, it all went black… I lost control...

I got my appointment in January and no way that I’m going to attend it, no way!!! Don’t want the same thing to happen to me again as it did today, it was horrible. No brackets are going on my teeth before I feel comfortable again

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My plan was to cancel the whole thing but I sent my ortho an e-mail today. Explained him what went wrong yesterday and thanked him for everything he has done for me. I’m very thankful that I got him.

I asked if we would take this last appointment one more time because I did not get a thing he said because I was too scared. He seem to really care about his pts and I remember him telling me that if I was in any kind of pain with the braces I could just contact him, and that he promise to let me know everything that would happen. I feel it will wrong to cancel the whole thing just because of this, it was not his fault. If ‘m backing out this now I don’t think I will be able to go back again… I have to try it one more time.

We’ll see what the next few days will bring. Don’t think I will get any answer before next week.

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Eb--you are on courageous and brave young lady--you go girl!!!

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I agree 100% with Klobird, you go girl you can do it.

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Thank you guys!

This is some of what I remember him telling me. I have scanned my brain to get to them and I managed to remember some of it:
- I did not need to use molarbands, he wanted to try without (YESSSSS! ).
- He also wanted to try to correct my canine without extraction, give it about 6 months and see if it’s possible.
- It will take me 1,5 year, maybe 2 year to correct both my jaws
- He did not use powerchain before the end of the treatment, never in the beginning, it would be too uncomfortable for the pt.

Hmm, what more did he tell me?
- I might need a molar build up for a few weeks when the bottom braces are on (he never put braces on both jaws at the same time. It would be more comfortable to eat and speak with just one jaw at the time, not being sore at both in the beginning - Giving the pt time to adjust to this new stuff). Don’t like the thought of molar build ups…
- I would need a spring(?) to keep the gap to my canine open while he widen my arch to make room for the canine, then put a bracket on it and push it down.
- He did not think that I would have much pain.

And I can't remember more. Nothing about what he told me about my teeth, my next appointment, or the real treatment plan...

I asked if it was possible to just take braces on my upper jaw because that was why I originally came in, but he did not want to do that (of course if it was what I really wanted I'm sure I could do it). My lower jaw was worse than my upper, he feared for gum diseases as a result for the crowning.

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Hey yeah it was hard for me to remember what happened much at the first appointment because of all the stuff she had done to me. Pictures, Panoramic and Cephalimetric x rays, im pressions, more pictures, and her examining me then sitting me at the computer and such

The second appointment was just me and her talking and her showing me stuff.
The dont need Molar Bands also
May need buildups because when my teeth bit down my teeth hit my lower canines and such.
I was expected only the top row with my herbst for a year then the bottom row. I got both rows on but Im glad because my teeth are working in unison with more special attention to the upper jaw.
I dont need any springs, just elastics.

Now I have a few questions and its perectly fine to ask questions while in treatment, my orthodontist said please do not hesitate to call if I have any questions or want to know more about orthodontics. I will ask her this thursday.

Yeah you definatly might want to do both. I can't even feel that I have lower braces on at ALL, the tops ones I can feel but not the bottom ones. So you should be fine.

If you are unsure about the treatment plan you can always call and ask to speak to him over the phone

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Got an e-mail from my ortho and he thanked me so much for sending him this e-mail, that I told him about what went wrong and what I’m afraid of. He did not know that I reacted to the other ortho working on a little girl (It just took me by surprise…) and the surroundings, he usually did not work the same day as the other ortho but had to work extra this week. That was why it was kinda “full” that day.

I was a very good pt since I have showed up at every appointment and managed to do impressions and everything despite my fear , he had confident that I could do this. And he would do whatever he could to make this as easy as possible for me so I could be as comfortable as possible through the treatment.

What he suggested was that I showed up on Wednesday when they close so we can have a chat in peace about the treatment plan, and that I write down the questions I have. We could have the chat in their lunch room so I did not need to be surrounded by dental equipment, but I will tell him that he won’t need to do that for me, I usually don’t react to dental equipment, it was probably just the whole situation that made me react.

Wow, I did not expect a so nice reply. I can't find a better ortho than this, so I'm going to do this in January. Won't fint any better ortho ever, it's now or never.

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Eb--He sounds just like my female "superdentist". Do not let him go!!! It can change your whole life about dentistry--well, that's what it did for me...

I am so glad that he already e-mailed you. Now you make sure you write down EVERYTHING that you have a question about--and if you are unsure about whether or not it's appropriate, then go back to our other website and look at the letter I gave to "superdentist"--and she "thinks it's an honor to have me in her life"!! Never thought that would happen!!! ---And by the way--you trust me right?--show him your pics--he will LOVE them!!!

You have a gem of an ortho--I think all of us would agree!!

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Oh, Ebony, I am so proud of you sending that email to your Ortho AND deciding to meet with him again. Wow, what a courageous person and what a great Ortho you have too!

You go girl!