Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

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Avrilinvan
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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#46 Postby Avrilinvan » Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:45 pm

Yes I have a gummy smile. My surgeon didn't give me any measurement. Buy I could see about 2mm of gum when I had a big smile, and I had around 4mm upper tooth show at rest before the surgery. My upper jaw was moved both upward and backward, my lower jaw was moved backward and my chin was moved forward. I saw your photos, now my smile and my tooth show at rest are exactly like yours. What bothers me is also my lower tooth show, I don't really pay attention to my lower tooth show before I think it is zero because I never notice it. Now I can see all my lower tooth which make me look like a bulldog. I talked with my new surgeon he's not quite sure what it'll be improved after the reversing surgery.

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#47 Postby jawregret1 » Mon Mar 13, 2017 2:24 am

The reversing surgery will just be upper jaw or will it also be lower jaw and chin as well?

Impaction rotates the jaws upward, which decreases upper tooth show and increases lower tooth show. However, the genioplasty (chin) can also increase lower tooth show even more depending on how things were stitched back up.

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#48 Postby Avrilinvan » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:31 pm

The reversing surgery will just be upper jaw (downgrading the maxilla) to achieve tooth exposure at rest. May I ask what is your tooth exposure at rest pre-op?

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#49 Postby jawregret1 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:03 am

Before surgery, it was 3mm tooth show at rest. after surgery it's zero. Hoping to get back the 3mm I had before.

Though I'm worried my face/chin will appear even longer after.

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#50 Postby Avrilinvan6 » Tue Apr 25, 2017 5:08 pm

I had my reversing surgery on Apr 18. 4mm downgraft to gain tooth show, no other movement. The result is as expected now I have around 2-2.5mm tooth show(pre-op is -2mm). I've bothered with this problem for two and half years now I feel really happy.

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#51 Postby jawregret1 » Wed Apr 26, 2017 5:39 am

Avrilinvan6 wrote:I had my reversing surgery on Apr 18. 4mm downgraft to gain tooth show, no other movement. The result is as expected now I have around 2-2.5mm tooth show(pre-op is -2mm). I've bothered with this problem for two and half years now I feel really happy.


Oh, cool! I have a few questions.

Did your nose change with the reversal surgery, and how do your lower teeth show now?

I wish you a speedy and good recovery! :)

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#52 Postby Avrilinvan6 » Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:59 am

Thank you for saying so. Sorry English is not my first language I try to explain things clear.

My nose didn't change at all. i also confirmed this with my parents and friends, and they all agreed.

Now my lower tooth show is 3/4 of my lower teeth length. So it does improved. And my lower lip is still swollen and rolling downward, so I hope later it'll improve more.

Hope you good luck with your surgery too!!!

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#53 Postby jawregret1 » Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:31 am

Thanks for answering!

Did your nose change after the first surgery? If it did, you mean that your nose stayed like after the 1st surgery, not your original pre-op nose?

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#54 Postby bracejks » Fri May 05, 2017 7:29 am

i'm in similar situation as you as well, but my is much more worse i had second surgery and still not able to show my upper teeth enough. First surgery over impacted, then i went for another surgeon who recommended only move forward the upper jaw no bone grafting, but is improved, still not enough tooth show, what to do now... :(

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#55 Postby jawregret1 » Fri May 05, 2017 7:33 am

bracejks wrote:i'm in similar situation as you as well, but my is much more worse i had second surgery and still not able to show my upper teeth enough. First surgery over impacted, then i went for another surgeon who recommended only move forward the upper jaw no bone grafting, but is improved, still not enough tooth show, what to do now... :(


You had it only moved forward, not down?

What did you have in your first surgery? Double jaw surgery? Genio? How much were you impacted?

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#56 Postby bracejks » Fri May 05, 2017 9:24 am

[quote="jawregret1"][quote="bracejks"]i'm in similar situation as you as well, but my is much more worse i had second surgery and still not able to show my upper teeth enough. First surgery over impacted, then i went for another surgeon who recommended only move forward the upper jaw no bone grafting, but is improved, still not enough tooth show, what to do now... :([/quote]

You had it only moved forward, not down?

What did you have in your first surgery? Double jaw surgery? Genio? How much were you impacted?[/quote]

First surgery was impacted 2.5, and moved back 3mm plus clockwise rotated to fix my long face and slight protrusion , i didn't have gummy smile, second surgery with another surgeon who suggested just moved forward 4.5mm and ensure me that it will have more teeth show, now it has been 6 month, it does show a little bit more now when i'm talking very aggressively, but still not enough, and almost zero when i'm talking softly... jawregret1 your revision just only operate upper right?

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#57 Postby jawregret1 » Tue May 09, 2017 2:36 pm

bracejks wrote:
jawregret1 wrote:
bracejks wrote:i'm in similar situation as you as well, but my is much more worse i had second surgery and still not able to show my upper teeth enough. First surgery over impacted, then i went for another surgeon who recommended only move forward the upper jaw no bone grafting, but is improved, still not enough tooth show, what to do now... :(


You had it only moved forward, not down?

What did you have in your first surgery? Double jaw surgery? Genio? How much were you impacted?


First surgery was impacted 2.5, and moved back 3mm plus clockwise rotated to fix my long face and slight protrusion , i didn't have gummy smile, second surgery with another surgeon who suggested just moved forward 4.5mm and ensure me that it will have more teeth show, now it has been 6 month, it does show a little bit more now when i'm talking very aggressively, but still not enough, and almost zero when i'm talking softly... jawregret1 your revision just only operate upper right?


If the upper jaw was brought forward but the lower not touched, doesn't that affect your bite? Did you have braces for the revision?

And I'm not entirely sure what my revision will consist of. Possibly upper and genio.

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#58 Postby bracejks » Wed May 10, 2017 2:47 am

[quote="jawregret1"][quote="bracejks"][quote="jawregret1"]

You had it only moved forward, not down?

What did you have in your first surgery? Double jaw surgery? Genio? How much were you impacted?[/quote]

First surgery was impacted 2.5, and moved back 3mm plus clockwise rotated to fix my long face and slight protrusion , i didn't have gummy smile, second surgery with another surgeon who suggested just moved forward 4.5mm and ensure me that it will have more teeth show, now it has been 6 month, it does show a little bit more now when i'm talking very aggressively, but still not enough, and almost zero when i'm talking softly... jawregret1 your revision just only operate upper right?[/quote]

If the upper jaw was brought forward but the lower not touched, doesn't that affect your bite? Did you have braces for the revision?

And I'm not entirely sure what my revision will consist of. Possibly upper and genio.[/quote]

When is your scheduled for the revision, try to make sure what they will do in the revision clearly and don't let them mess up. i'm still in the middle of discussion with my doc, because he asked me to wait few more months and exercise my upper lip hope to improve, i hope it will be only operate upper not both again...i'm prepared anything i could to make my tooth show again when talking even a lip lift....because it is so weird talking without tooth showing..

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#59 Postby jawregret1 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 12:59 pm

bracejks wrote:
jawregret1 wrote:
bracejks wrote:
First surgery was impacted 2.5, and moved back 3mm plus clockwise rotated to fix my long face and slight protrusion , i didn't have gummy smile, second surgery with another surgeon who suggested just moved forward 4.5mm and ensure me that it will have more teeth show, now it has been 6 month, it does show a little bit more now when i'm talking very aggressively, but still not enough, and almost zero when i'm talking softly... jawregret1 your revision just only operate upper right?


If the upper jaw was brought forward but the lower not touched, doesn't that affect your bite? Did you have braces for the revision?

And I'm not entirely sure what my revision will consist of. Possibly upper and genio.


When is your scheduled for the revision, try to make sure what they will do in the revision clearly and don't let them mess up. i'm still in the middle of discussion with my doc, because he asked me to wait few more months and exercise my upper lip hope to improve, i hope it will be only operate upper not both again...i'm prepared anything i could to make my tooth show again when talking even a lip lift....because it is so weird talking without tooth showing..



How are you doing now? Did the tooth show improve at all?

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#60 Postby bracejks » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:06 pm

Hi, jawregret1,

How are you going, my doctor suggested me to use brace to extrude the upper teeth down and tipping more forward to improve it, but i don't know how much will improve still, but there are some cases fixed by this way, hopefully mine as well.


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