Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

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SingleJawMelb
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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?the doctors

#31 Postby SingleJawMelb » Tue Oct 18, 2016 5:01 am

GGGUNIT wrote:
SingleJawMelb wrote:
GGGUNIT wrote:
In my opinion and aesthetically speaking, a larger BSSO with vertical and slightly forward genio without any maxilla change would have looked the best. Generally, people that get their maxilla impacted have long faces with steep jaw angles, but you don't have those it seems. Your maxilla also doesn't look recessed but these things are impossible to tell from just an ordinary picture and I'm not a professional. I would say your lower jaw is still retrusive, relative to your face. This is something you should be striving for aesthetically: https://gyazo.com/3db3b329abfc1d0ff62e752ee31e6252 I moved the upper lip back and extended the chin downwards a bit and brought your mandible forward. Even if you leave your maxilla as is and bring the mandible forward the difference is hugely positive.

You definitely do look better post op. But you are right about the results being aesthetically underwhelming.


Just wondering where you get your information from?


Read a lot and talk to a lot of jaw surgery nerds.


Where do you find these fellow insecure people, sorry jaw nerds.

Just kidding, I don't know how anyone can be so dedicated/interested about something that I think isn't a big deal :D

Can you answer my post about jaw surgey without braces. I think you will enjoy answering. Ta.

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#32 Postby jawregret1 » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:32 am

GGGUNIT wrote:
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snapdresser wrote:Ah, it was your mandible that came forward 6mm. I show about 50% upper tooth and 50% lower tooth if I try to let my lips open a bit at rest (tho they're naturally closed now, as yours should be) but I'm not sure what the ideal is. I've only seen ideal tooth-show when smiling. So what's your plan of action? You trying to get a graft to pull your maxilla down? I think that has a lot higher chance of not healing up as well, tho I could be wrong. I suspect your surgeon will make you wait 9 months or a year before they're willing to go back in. How does your profile compare? That's where I really saw the improvement for my case.


My profile is not retrusive but still weird. They shouldn't have touched the upper jaw at all, and the chin looks strange.

Pre-op: https://i.imgur.com/Mz9B1FV.png
Post-op: https://i.imgur.com/9jNUZoU.png


In my opinion and aesthetically speaking, a larger BSSO with vertical and slightly forward genio without any maxilla change would have looked the best. Generally, people that get their maxilla impacted have long faces with steep jaw angles, but you don't have those it seems. Your maxilla also doesn't look recessed but these things are impossible to tell from just an ordinary picture and I'm not a professional. I would say your lower jaw is still retrusive, relative to your face. This is something you should be striving for aesthetically: https://gyazo.com/3db3b329abfc1d0ff62e752ee31e6252 I moved the upper lip back and extended the chin downwards a bit and brought your mandible forward. Even if you leave your maxilla as is and bring the mandible forward the difference is hugely positive.

You definitely do look better post op. But you are right about the results being aesthetically underwhelming.



Thanks for this, but I honestly want something close to my old face back, even with a smaller jaw. I can't take any more surprises with my face.

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#33 Postby Lostfaith » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:09 am

I'm having mine reversed , I had a impaction that has left me with maxillary hypoplasia (short upper jaw) so
You no longer see my upper teeth. It's going to be complicated and comes with risks but it's not right so what option do I have .

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#34 Postby Lostfaith » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:19 am

Think I may have spoken to you before , I have the same thing that you don't see my upper teeth and only the lower . The impaction was over done , really if it's the same for you then the upper needs to come down, I wouldn't start asking for them to the do the lower as well , as your upper jaw comes down then your chin will rotate backwards slightly . It's considered a unstable procedure and has a higher chance of relapse but they can stabilize it as much as possible using a graft or Hydroxyapitate and bone plates . I know exactly what you are going through and it's awful , find a very very experienced surgeon as if he's got it wrong once then would you trust him to do a revision .

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#35 Postby jawregret1 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 8:20 am

Lostfaith wrote:Think I may have spoken to you before , I have the same thing that you don't see my upper teeth and only the lower . The impaction was over done , really if it's the same for you then the upper needs to come down, I wouldn't start asking for them to the do the lower as well , as your upper jaw comes down then your chin will rotate backwards slightly . It's considered a unstable procedure and has a higher chance of relapse but they can stabilize it as much as possible using a graft or Hydroxyapitate and bone plates . I know exactly what you are going through and it's awful , find a very very experienced surgeon as if he's got it wrong once then would you trust him to do a revision .



The thing is that my upper jaw is way too forward now, and my lip sticks out as far as my nose when I'm at rest. I wish for it to be brought back as it was in addition to downgrafting, so that requires the lower jaw to be redone as well. It looks very bad with the upper protruding so much.

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#36 Postby snapdresser » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:54 am

jawregret1 wrote:The thing is that my upper jaw is way too forward now, and my lip sticks out as far as my nose when I'm at rest. I wish for it to be brought back as it was in addition to downgrafting, so that requires the lower jaw to be redone as well. It looks very bad with the upper protruding so much.


Wait... I thought you said they only advanced your maxilla 3mm? Why would it suddenly be way too forward now? 3mm is a pretty small movement. When's the last time you met with your surgeon?
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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#37 Postby Snophik » Mon Oct 24, 2016 2:28 pm

If it wasn't necessary from the start, then 3 mm is a lot.

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#38 Postby jawregret1 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 4:21 pm

Snophik wrote:If it wasn't necessary from the start, then 3 mm is a lot.


Exactly.

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#39 Postby snapdresser » Tue Oct 25, 2016 4:16 am

Snophik wrote:If it wasn't necessary from the start, then 3 mm is a lot.


3mm is 3mm and what I'm getting at is that perhaps the bone movement itself isn't to blame for the appearance; maybe she has an infection. That's why I asked when the last time she saw her surgeon was.
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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#40 Postby jawregret1 » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:27 am

snapdresser wrote:
Snophik wrote:If it wasn't necessary from the start, then 3 mm is a lot.


3mm is 3mm and what I'm getting at is that perhaps the bone movement itself isn't to blame for the appearance; maybe she has an infection. That's why I asked when the last time she saw her surgeon was.


Last time I saw the surgeon was four days ago, and there was no infection.

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#41 Postby zaynab5 » Sat Nov 12, 2016 8:51 am

Hello
I just had had an 2nd surgery becasue my lower jaw was infected so had to remove the plates and screws. But has anybody had their upper jaw moved back in the 2nd surgery. I am so dissapointed with the result and want my upper jaw to placed.baxk where it was prior to the surgery. Also my lower jaw have been pushed back too excesively. I also feel that my both jaw feel small compare to how it was before.
Thanks

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#42 Postby Lostfaith » Wed Nov 16, 2016 4:19 am

I'm now a week a way from having my upper jaw surgery impaction reversed, I have everything crossed and praying it goes well , very scared .

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#43 Postby jawregret1 » Wed Nov 16, 2016 8:22 am

Lostfaith wrote:I'm now a week a way from having my upper jaw surgery impaction reversed, I have everything crossed and praying it goes well , very scared .



Do you have the plan of what they're going to do?

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#44 Postby jawregret1 » Fri Nov 18, 2016 4:47 pm

Update: my surgeon has offered a revision.

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Re: Reversing jaw surgery: has anyone ever heard of this?

#45 Postby zaynab5 » Sun Nov 20, 2016 1:18 pm

[quote="jawregret1"]Update: my surgeon has offered a revision.[/quote]

Hello just saw yr message, what is your surgeon going to in your rivision surgery


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